Metal has a greying patina. The company built side-by-side double barrel shotguns throughout WW2. Once tested and successful the weapon was stamped with a seal to acknowledge the testing - called "Proof Marks". ArmsCollectors.com Collectable Firearms Forums Modern, antique and collectable firearms, questions answered, gun & militaria related items. Don't know about the Star P. And I don't ever evaluate guns. Chaumont M.J. Scarce 10 gauge. In England, the second charter of the Gunmakers' Company granted in 1672 marked the beginning of the official proving of arms, but it did not apply to weapons made elsewhere in the Kingdom, provided they were not offered for sale in the London market. Black powder proof for rifles and shotguns. Browning firearms have been traditionally made in locations world-wide. Hammers cock and function properly. This printed and hardbound book, written in English and French by Alain Daubresse, provide an extensive insight about the gunmaking activity in Belgium from its very beginning to the middle of the 20th century. The book Anyone else know? Double proof as prescribed by the French law of 1810. Today's biography is a guest post by our friend Robert White - thanks, Robert! this book online and pay it through Paypal. Savage was founded in 1894 by Arthur Savage in New York after years of tinkering with lever-action rifle designs. Is there a 70mm stamp on the extractor blade faces? MANUFACTURERS. How do I price this piece? Bores are excellent. Ray D, STOGERS, advertised them as being made for the AFRICAN tribes to hunt with because with them they would not be able to rebel against the BELGIAN rulers who had modern arms. Good overall condition. http://sites.google.com/a/damascusknowl m/www/home, https://www.hunting.be/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Belgian-Proof-Marks.pdf, Belgian Liege gunmakers (A to C) - Volume 1, https://docs.google.com/document/d/17yC Xntqw/edit, https://www.dropbox.com/sc/0sf7osf1dtg1s3r/AABKOd3k4GaQV_ppAci4eWNka, https://books.google.com/books?id=5fxGA g=PA52&lpg, http://www.cip-bobp.org/homologation/en _type_id=7, https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewto 5&t=471622, https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewto 5&t=474548, https://books.google.com/books?id=5fxGAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA53, http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/ar a%20gb.htm, https://www.cornellpubs.com/old-guns/it em_id=3618, https://www.cornellpubs.com/old-guns/it em_id=3202. Bury Jules. Good overall condition. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Ateliers Saint Laurent, Bauwir Joseph The New E.C. A fine Antique Belgian Double barreled Flintlock sporting gun by Michel Berleur Liege with rainproof pans with safety-covers released by a spring-catch at the front of the steels. Sorry I can't be more helpful. Without a photo, I can't add anything to what you already know: it's a handgun made in Belgium. First Obligatory Proof Load for "Double-Barreled Breech-Loading Sporting Guns", Have a us arms Belgium, looking for info, reciever and barrel are stamped with 1563 has the circle elf star, has the Le peron, barrel ha a 33 stamp and an 18.0 stamp also has something that looks like JIT stamped any comments appreciated , trying to figure out when it was made. 2 Hammerless 12 Gauge Parker Bros. Bury was famous for his double rifles and also built the legendary Super Britte. Receiver has approximately 75% original nickel plating. This mark is found on guns that is not made in Belgium by countries that use proofs that is not recognized by the Belgian Proof House. 1891 - present 16 Barrel weight in grams of nitro proofed shotguns. Locks are scroll engraved and marked "C. G. Bonehill". The inspectors mark is still an secret so the list here should be regarded as uncertain, but it can in some cases give a more accurate dating that the stamps. (Six volumes by alphabetical order), Belgian Liege gunmakers (A to C) - Volume 1. Burlet Colt Browning M1895 (Potato Digger) Air-Cooled, Belt-Fed Machine Gun. Breechloaders had existed previously, but Casimir Lefaucheux's 1835 invention of the pin-fire cartridgea cylinder with a pin extending at right angles to the base which detonated a fulminate charge in the cartridgequickly led to better breechloading systems and to the development first of rimfire and then of centerfire cartridges. Damascus barrels are 30". ! Cap Joseph By Alain Daubresse. Thanks again for the help! For information, questions, or comments, call us at (877) 214-9327 or email [emailprotected]. Bead. After 1924 fractions of grams were no longer used 1892 - present 1K355.5 17 If you can, send me a photo: ghcox3@gmail.com.Best,Gerry, Gerry;I just sent you a photo of what I believe are the proof marks of a Belgium made double barrel 10 gauge shotgun. 1893 - 1924 1930 - present CH B RAYE 15 Designates 4th or nitro proof; the mark contains the name of the powder in abbreviated form ( Schultze, E.C.) Ithaca Gun Company: One of America's most successful gun makers. I also looked at other European proof marks but didn't find the one you mention: compare http://www.cornellpubs.com/Catalog/proof-marks-intl.pdf. A handsome and unusual shotgun. Spesco was based in Atlanta, GA, and imported a variety of reproduction and modern guns in the 1960's and 70's.It would be a good idea to check that the rifle is unloaded. One of the lesser known of the Belgian handgun makers was Jean Warnant but he was a creative designer and the British Thornton's Patent for a double action revolver lock work was actually originally his idea for which he applied for a patent in Belgium in 1874 and that patent was granted in 1875. Other than the diameter stamp, I don't see a 70mm stamp. Any maker's name on the rib between the barrels?Best,Gerry, 1902 a greener twobarrel it has hh on botten of barrel what do i have. What about a lightning bolt with a star above? I can't tell if it was proved for nitro: those have a lion over the PV. Antique 10 ga Belgium made percussion Shot gun **Free Shipping no CC Fees** Engraved with gold inlay. Makers - Darne, Merkel, Arrieta, Beretta, Browning, Holland, Purdey, Richards, Bernardelli, Parker, Fox, LC Smith, and most other double barreled shotgun, gun and double rifle makers. http://sites.google.com/a/damascusknowl m/www/home. Stock has an old crack near wedge on left side. The gun was restocked with a new buttstock. % Do check with a gunsmith before you shoot it! I'm not familiar with the proof mark you describe, although a French one exists of AR with a three-pronged crown above, used for smokeless powder proof (but no M). Henri Pieper (left) and Nicolas Pieper (right) Henri Pieper was born and raised in modest German home in Soest (Westphalia) Germany on Oct 30, 1840. Bury is a typical belgian Boxlock gun in 16/65 with 66 cm barrels and a weight of only 2,6 Kg. in the A to C range of the alphabetical order. Thanks. Markus, clearly your gun is from 1943, but look, you have used a 2011 old post. I'll test it very cautiously. Smokeless powder proof of military rifles until 1903, thereafter indicates nitro proof for all types of arms. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Good overall condition. Check your syntax! is about 30 cm X 22 cm (11.80" X 8.60"). As for proof marks, the oval with E/LG/* inside makes it indeed Belgian. M855 Green Tip, Didn't find what you were looking for? presented below is the first of the series and is covering the gunmakers whose names are Bernard Lambert Bultot Jean There's no indication of chamber length--but that didn't begin until 1892.The other marks I can't identify.So what can I tell you? In its small version its a acceptance mark on barrels that was exported in a unfinished state 1846-1893, In its small version its a black powder mark on small pistols and revolvers barrels 1866-1893, In its small version its a black powder mark on small revolvers cylinders 1866-1893. will it take normal 12 gauge shells then? Good examples of the information that can be derived from adequate images. A reader hasasked me to say something aboutBelgian proof marks. On barrels of breechloading shotguns after final black powder proof. Seller: Jacob Hranowskyj. I picked this up a few years ago in the bargain bin at a gun shop. they were made + or - 1900 to 1930's. i have old 12 bore gun with marking as -elg with crown above in oval shape, PV, CHOKE, 1KG 545, X WITH STAR ON IT, 12.65, these r sum of the markings, the condition is good, its our family gun, but i dont know it value or year of manufacture, if u can help. Colt Firearms 7626 Westheimer @ Voss, Houston, Texas 77063. Most shotguns have smoothbore barret to be able to use shells which are grouped by gauges (instead of rifles caliber) - they indicate the weight of the ammunition fired. Quite old. Andr M.J. Colleye Henri Joseph It could be almost anything: an English Greener, which would have Birmingham, England, proof marks, or it could be a double of dubious origin. Thanks so much. thanks for the help so far. Receiver, trigger guard, hammers and side locks are engraved with a floral motif. Can be without star and ring. The Belgian-made Auto-5 gets more accolades, but the Miroku A-5 is the better gun. (Improved) Nr. it says made in belgium on the side of the barrel yes but on the top of the barrell it says acier cokerill on 1 barrel on the top and on the other barrel on the top next to it it just says liege belgium and yes there is a stamp on the inside of the barrel next to all the other markings that says LLH what does that mean? $1,750.00. Very appealing Belgian made double manufactured in the 1890's. The gun maker is based out of Birmingham, England, and still manufacturers guns to this day. Share to Twitter. Muzzleloading, breech loading, accessories, Airborne weapon pod systems, ammunition, vehicle mounted weapon systems, Gas-piston-operated weapon systems, firearm accessories, drop-in triggers, patriotic artwork, bolt carriers, bolts, upper receivers, barrel nut heatsinks, E^2 (E-Squared) barrels, Handguns, shotguns, machine guns, battle rifles, Suppressors, optics, ammunition, clothing, Springfield, Massachusetts armory location, (Special Warfare Operations Research and Development), This page was last edited on 20 February 2023, at 21:10. Photos of the flats on the barrels and on the action would help a lot. See all my Guns on Guns International Click on Link Ancion Jacques & Cie Moore & Co. on both sides. To my knowledge, there isn't a book out that covers European proof marks: If someone knows about such a book, please add a comment with that information. Baron Emile Christophe & Montigny Can't help much w/o some photos (send to ghcox3@gmail.com). American gun makers including Supplement of AMerican gun makers Item Preview remove-circle Share or Embed This Item. Side by side shotguns of this era are highly collectable and our inventory changes frequently. It's as useful in a duck blind as it is . Locks are engraved with scenes of dogs on point. Brancquaert Louis Hammers cock and function properly. The 16 Gauge sidelock unfortunately was such pitted, that there was only one way to save it. Material presented throughout this website is for historical and entertainment value only and should not to be construed as usable for hardware restoration, maintenance, or general operation. The "1136" might be the serial number for that pair of pistols. Manufactured in the 1860's. vast quantity of data to treat, the global work was parted in a series of publications, When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Both come in the then very popular caliber 16. Thanks! The mark is applied after the gun has passed the Belgian proof. The other side of the coin is that quality can indeed be there in Belgian guns: The Belgian Browning Superposed were all fine guns, whilefirms like Francotte, Dumoulin, or Lebeau-Courallycould make guns of very high quality indeed. Counet-Leboulle J. Side by side with auto ejectors and single selective trigger. Receiver has original case colors in protected areas. Both come in the then very popular caliber 16. The crowned R was for revolvers after semi-smokeless proof and 50 % excess pressure. have a great day! Midway USA sells a CO2 kit to unload both flint and percussion guns.Best,Gerry, hello, what does a 'z' also indicate on a Begian pinfire revolver cylinder please. The numbers 138 G(looks like a 1) are under the proof mark. Chambers are 2 3/4". Bores show very Percussion side by side field gun manufactured in the 1860's. I have pics of the Proof marks I want to show you. To make purchases and use the full site services, register or login your account. Ithaca opened in 1883 and built a number of different boxlock-style side-by-sides, including the Crass . Comblain Most double shotguns represented here. Some sharp photos might help; send them to (ghcox3@gmail.com). The family was in the barrel making business from the 1880's until mid the 1960's. http://www.littlegun.be/arme belge/artisans identifies d/a delcour dupont gb.htm This is Jean-Baptiste Delcour-Dupont and his son Oscar, 1924. Other makers include Lebeau Courally and Mahillon. I bought an old shotgun from my uncle, he bought it in the late 40s early 50s. gunmakers treated in this first volume are : Albini BraendlinAncion & C . Savage continued to build guns under the A.H. Fox name into the 1940s. Lock and barrel are unmarked. Each gunmaker is presented with the maximum of data available and a wealth of color pictures about the most typical pieces of his Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, Brandon, but I've been out of the country w/o internet access. Shotgun Serial *Belgium Browning A5 Automatic 12 ga. If you are considering buying a Belgian gun, look long and hard atits quality. Do you have any knowlege of pinfire double barrels? A Adaptive Tactical Shotguns American Tactical Shotguns B Baikal Shotguns Barrett Shotguns Benelli Shotguns Beretta Shotguns Blaser Shotguns Browning Shotguns C Century Shotguns Charles Daly Shotguns Chiappa Shotguns . I have a Belgium 38-40 with a 7 in barrel all matching. Sorry! Do you have any information on them? GI#: 102181883. Breechloaders had existed previously, but Casimir Lefaucheuxs 1835 invention of the pin-fire cartridgea cylinder with a pin extending at right angles to the base which detonated a fulminate charge in the cartridgequickly led to better breechloading systems and to the development first of rimfire and then of centerfire cartridges.Dating pin-fire guns: the 1835 date of Lefaucheuxs invention gives us a convenient terminus a quo: if the pin-fire wasnt invented until 1835, any pin-fire gun cannot be earlier than 1835. Hello, I have two ELG 1136 Belgian Percussion Dueling pistols with a 6 inch barrel. The "D.D. Christophe Louis It was used by a myriad of hunters for all kinds of wild game. Clement, Charles Pistol and revolver manufacturer in Liege, Belgium, c.1886-1914. We do not sell any of the items showcased on this site. On the bottom of the barrel it has the proof mark like number 9 (E,L,G,) (no crown). The date stamps is not used on all guns, otherwise that is the most accurate. This little sixteen is a fine example for the Belgian craftsmenship and will be even today a perfect gun for upland hunting. Thanks for any help you can offer.Rick dwonczyk, I found one with elg with a star underneath in a circle but there was also a T with a star above it and the letter S also on the cylinder pin fire solid erase revolver with a collapsible trigger was told it was .31, Hi, Rick. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Inspector's marks can not be used to establish date of manufacture; they were re-used over time and the significance of some has been lost. I have got a 19th century belgian double barrel pin fire shoutgun with walnut stock(116cm). A "Greener" double? Bernimolin The famous "hump back" was made in countless configurations and gauges. Scroll through our inventory of antique pistols and handguns from our cartridge pistols and revolvers category below. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I have not fired it. For now, the year of introduction of E.C. Berleur Guillaume On barrels and actions of smoothbore guns with the gauge size. I'll restrict myself therefore tosaying something about gun making in Belgium and offering some proof marks. Proof Marks or "Proofs" as they are sometimes referred to have changed over time, therefore assisting in dating the arm. Gun Barrel Proof Marks. Designates rifled barrel. Closset Louis - Remy Hubert I'm a ypunger collector/gun activist. Barrels are 32". Belgian Pinfire. Also on the chamber there are three marks, one which I have not been able to identify, but appears to be provisional proof? 4 0 obj A number of book by Dr. James Whisker and various co-authors list Amercian makers by specific region. Bury was famous for his double rifles and also built the legendary Super Britte. Paypal, Order With 26-inch open-choked barrels, it is a 6.5 pound delight. Bettonville - Fontaine Length of pull is 14 5/8. 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Damascus barrels are 29". "The Best Damn Gunshop in the World" Colot Original butt plate has some wear, no chips or cracks. If you could find the time to give me a clue what exactly this gun is I would greatly appreciate it.Thanks,John. I can send pictures of it. listed in alphabetical order. Action works properly and hammers cock. Behr Jean jacques I know the bottom image. I found a couple on this site and also nramuseum.com leading me to believe its a British or Belgian gun. Baker, David J. Very good overall condition. Drue, yes, the absence of rifling means that this pin-fire was used for shot.Pin-fires represent an important stage in the development of firearms. Walnut stocks are good with some field wear. Very little: I'm assuming it isn't a muzzleloader but a breechloader, which means it could be as early as 1860-1865, say. We present shotguns with a wide variety of features, technical characteristics, and prices from the worlds best companies, such as Chiappo, Italy; Tar Ideal Concept LTD, Israel and the leader of Chinese gun-industry - China North Industries Corp. (NORINCO). Greetings Easthampton,I have been researching an old antique pistol that has been in our family for generations.What leads me to your group was the Hits and Misses article posted in 2014; on Deciphering Belgian Proof Marks (my piece has the spelling Belgium). Butt plate has a minor chip at the toe. Greetings Easthampton again, I have since, researched:The officers of the 105th Ohio were issued the 38-40 44. HI, John. Put it in an old tire, put a 5 lb bag on the over the top . Antiquegunlist.com is the leading provider of antique guns for sale. I live in Tennessee and would love help on identifying this gun down to the year and place made. SCH or EC is abbreviations of the powder: SCH meaning Schultze. Damascus barrels are approximately 30". Belgian Arms cie The next guns carrying the Browning name were manufactured in Belgium. If the price seems too good to be true, it probably is. 14. Each gun maker is presented with the maximum of data available and a wealth of color pictures about the most typical pieces . . Thanks Brandon. Copyright 2023 All rights reserved. Now represents definitive black powder proof except for muzzle loaders, This mark is found on barrels and locks after voluntary semi-smokeless proof, Standard smokeless powder proof on military rifles below 8mm caliber.1898-present, Standard smokeless proof for all arms.1903-present, Mark applied to barrels which failed proof and have returned to makers for reworking. It was mandatory post-1924. The IZh motorcycles and automobiles are manufactured by. Good overall condition. The makers mark was in use for over a hundred years. Very good overall condition. Applied to all guns made but not proofed in Belgium - sent to an other country proof facilities. This is a typical 16 gauge of the period between 1912 and 1939. My best guess is that it's a maker's mark, but of course I could be wrong. stream Jules Bury advertising from the 1930ies.Courtesy of littlegun.be. Share to Reddit. Bodson N. Comblain - Dorther Hubert Double Barrel Shotgun. Since it reads >>Made in Belgium<< on the side of the tubes it was made for export. Small arms currently in service by national army. In the U.S., American made guns tend to be more desirable and more valuable than others, especially from the flintlock era. Handsome pinfire double manufactured in the 1860's. I will have to upload some pictures later when I get to my computer. The Great Exhibition of 1851 in London did much to publicize Lefaucheuxs system. is 1.220 kg (43.00 oz). OldGuns Newsletter . This printed << /Length 5 0 R /Filter /FlateDecode >> The gun has 72 cm barrels and weighs only 2,8 Kg. Stocks are good with some field wear. Burrard, Major Sir Gerald. Your help is appreciated. As the old saying has it, "The buyer needs a thousand eyes; the seller, only one." LLH (and other Belgian makers) made the tubes used by most of the U.S. double gun makers 1920s-1940s, with Siemens-Martin or Krupp (by license) steel supplied by Cockerill. Closset J.M. On barrel action of breech loading shotgun after the gun has passed proof with semi-smokeless powder . arquebusier in Lige passage Lemonnier, 11. He was registered with the Liege Proof House from 1896 to 1947. Manufactured in 1892. It's an old Belgian made SXS 12 gauge, marked "Lancaster Arms Co." From doing a little research on the proof marks, I think it was made sometime just pre-WWI. JavaScript is disabled. into which each separate book is dealing with a small portion of the whole, and that is With 66 cm barrels and weighs only 2,8 Kg the New E.C or comments call. 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